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[2016/....] Jaylen Brown #7 
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La mia risposta non voleva supportare alcun supermassimo salariale che non darei a nessuno

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per me l'erba del vicino non potrà mai essere più verde del verde celtics


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Caleb Martin: Il nostro piano di gioco è sempre quello di costringere Jaylen Brown a dribblare alla sua sinistra

Dan LeBatard Show: Dan: "Una volta che Jayson Tatum si è infortunato, l'intero piano di gioco era di mandare Jaylen Brown alla sua sinistra?" Caleb Martin "Questo è sempre il piano di gioco." – tramite Twitter


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C'è chi dice di tenerlo:

Isiah Thomas hasn’t spoken to Jaylen Brown since the Celtics were eliminated from the playoffs. But the Piston legend, a mentor to Brown from their ties to Cal, has prepared the advice he will give when next they chat. “Take the money,” Thomas told Heavy Sports through a laugh. Brown still has a year left on his Boston contract, but because of his second team All-NBA selection, he is eligible to sign a supermax extension of five years and some $290 million this summer. “Take the money,” Thomas repeated.
Later that evening when we spoke, Isiah said, “When I got to know Jaylen Brown and how he played, I said to him — and this is before the draft process started — I said to him, ‘You’re a Celtic.’ He fits the Celtic culture that I played against, that I competed against. That I know.” According to Thomas, Brown still very much fits with Boston and the Celtics “intellectually and spiritually.” “Yeah, he’s been great there,” Thomas told Heavy. “He’s had a great career there, and he’s become one of the best players in the league. They’ve done well, and he’s done well there. It’s been a win-win, I think, for him and for the Celtics.”


E chi dice di cederlo:

NBA legend Shaquille O’Neal believes the Boston Celtics need to split up Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. “I don’t want five stars on my team. I want a guy that I can go to every night, I want a guy that’s going to lead, and I want three dogs, three others. I would prefer if they were specialists: one to be a shooter, one to be a rebounder, and one to be a fighter,” O’Neal said on The Big Three Podcast. “I would, business-wise, break [Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown] up and use one of them to get the pieces I want. I will say Tatum is the number one, use Brown to bring in a Brown-type player, and then just do it like that.”


07/06/2023, 13:36
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C'è chi dice di tenerlo:

Isiah Thomas hasn’t spoken to Jaylen Brown since the Celtics were eliminated from the playoffs. But the Piston legend, a mentor to Brown from their ties to Cal, has prepared the advice he will give when next they chat. “Take the money,” Thomas told Heavy Sports through a laugh. Brown still has a year left on his Boston contract, but because of his second team All-NBA selection, he is eligible to sign a supermax extension of five years and some $290 million this summer. “Take the money,” Thomas repeated.
Later that evening when we spoke, Isiah said, “When I got to know Jaylen Brown and how he played, I said to him — and this is before the draft process started — I said to him, ‘You’re a Celtic.’ He fits the Celtic culture that I played against, that I competed against. That I know.” According to Thomas, Brown still very much fits with Boston and the Celtics “intellectually and spiritually.” “Yeah, he’s been great there,” Thomas told Heavy. “He’s had a great career there, and he’s become one of the best players in the league. They’ve done well, and he’s done well there. It’s been a win-win, I think, for him and for the Celtics.”


E chi dice di cederlo:

NBA legend Shaquille O’Neal believes the Boston Celtics need to split up Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. “I don’t want five stars on my team. I want a guy that I can go to every night, I want a guy that’s going to lead, and I want three dogs, three others. I would prefer if they were specialists: one to be a shooter, one to be a rebounder, and one to be a fighter,” O’Neal said on The Big Three Podcast. “I would, business-wise, break [Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown] up and use one of them to get the pieces I want. I will say Tatum is the number one, use Brown to bring in a Brown-type player, and then just do it like that.”


Isiah Thomas odia i Celtics ma li rispetta ed è cresciuto tifandoli.

Shaq è completamente assurdo nel 90% dei ragionamenti legati al gioco della pallacanestro che gli ho sentito fare, specialmente perché usa sè stesso come termine di paragone per tutto.

Entrambe le filosofie sono accettabili.
Thomas parla di mentalità di Brown e posso anche fidarmi, rimane il fatto, per me, che Brown deve cominciare a migliorare certe cose e diventare un primo violino oppure cominciare ad entrare nell'ottica che lui è il secondo violino e farsi andare bene la posizione a prescindere dallo stipendio.

Il ragionamento di Shaq può essere giusto, ma rimane il fatto che ora i 2 pezzi grossi sono Brown e Tatum, al momento non so se per Brown ti porti a casa il pezzo grosso che ti migliora rispetto a Brown. Se non ho capito male quello che ha detto Marcello ieri in diretta, se lo scambi ora lo scambi "a perderci" e non recuperi il 100% del suo valore.
Shaq ragiona in termini assoluti, devi fare le mosse che servono per vincere, fuori Brown, dentro Jokic. Certo. Ma bisogna vedere se Jokic lo clonano.


07/06/2023, 17:51
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Jaylen Brown, Celtics ‘confident’ extension can get done soon (report) - masslive.com

Jaylen Brown officially became eligible for a five-year, $295 million supermax extension with the Celtics when NBA free agency opened this weekend.

There were a flurry of moves made — including signing Oshae Brissett — but Brown agreeing to a supermax deal wasn’t one of them.
Brown’s future in Boston came into question with his vague comments about his thoughts on the matter. After the Celtics’ Game 7 loss to the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference Finals, Brown simply said, “We’ll cross that bridge when we get there,” when he was asked about a potential extension.
It doesn’t appear it’s any cause for concern, though, as The Boston Globe’s Adam Himmelsbach reported that “Brown is not expected to instantly agree to a deal, but both sides remain confident that one can be struck soon.”

It’s unclear if the Celtics will offer Brown the supermax deal, which he became eligible for when he was named to the All-NBA Second Team. Brown also doesn’t have to accept the offer, but the $295 million is over $100 million than what any other NBA team would be able to offer him.

Brown scored a career-high 26.6 points per game in the regular season, but struggled at times in the playoffs — particularly Game 7 against Miami when he committed eight turnovers and scored only 19 points.

The Celtics also have over $100 million committed to six players for the 2024-25 season, not including Kristaps Porzingis’ reported two-year extension. And as MassLive’s Brian Robb and Souichi Terada recently wrote, “the massive salary commitments to (Jayson) Tatum, Brown, and Porzingis starting in 2024-25 will create a bit of a challenge when it comes to filling out the roster for Brad Stevens amid luxury tax penalties and CBA limitations.”

An NBA executive suggested to Heavy’s Steve Bulpett that the Celtics include an opt-out in the middle of Brown’s five-year deal.

“Things could look a lot different then. But that team option would also give the Celtics a chance to reset if things don’t work out for whatever reason — injuries to the core rotation or things like that,” the anonymous executive told Bulpett. “They’d still have to buy Jaylen out, but the number would be less than the $65-or-so million on the contract.”

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There are options for the Celtics if they don’t want to commit to having that much money tied up — especially with the new CBA salary cap guidelines. And at this point it’s just a waiting game for both sides to get a deal done. The Celtics can get creative with Brown’s deal, or they can choose to offer him the supermax with no opt-outs.


03/07/2023, 13:28
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Beh insomma, aldilà delle dichiarazioni di facciata, è evidente che, numeri alla mano, un supermax a Brown sarebbe estremamente complicato da gestire, così come è evidente che il rendimento del ragazzo, in particolar modo ai PO, ha messo il tarlo del dubbio.
Non a caso il rinovo non è ancora arrivato e, se arriverà, potrebbero esserci delle sorprese creative come indicato nell'articolo qua sopra.


03/07/2023, 18:43
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Jaylen Brown is eligible for a supermax extension worth $270 million over five years with the Boston Celtics this offseason, but no deal has been reached so far this offseason. “The side are talking,” said Brian Windhorst on Sports Center. “This is obviously a very important, fragile deal. I know that there’s interest in both sides to get something done. I would expect it to head in that direction. “The one thing to point out: if Jaylen Brown gets extended on this deal for a year. For any deal at all. He cannot be traded for a year. For any deal at all. He’s prohibited from being traded. So the Celtics probably want to make sure all their business is locked down before going into this.”


“I think it will get done, but he’s eligible for up to 35 percent of the salary cap, but he doesn’t have to get that. The Celtics can negotiate on that. They can negotiate on the player option. They can negotiate on several things… There’s aspect within the deal you have to negotiate.”
– via RealGM


04/07/2023, 9:25
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One of the crucial questions floating around summer league has been why Jaylen Brown hasn’t completed his extension yet. On July 4, The Athletic reported the Celtics and Brown’s camp were expected to pick up talks at summer league. League sources told The Athletic that has gone as expected so far, with the two sides starting to make progress and likely moving closer to an agreement over the coming week – via Jared Weiss @ The Athletic


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Chaos in Boston? The latest development on relationship between Brown and Tatum - Hardwood Houdini

Just when you think that the Boston Celtics offseason could not get any crazier, more news drops and nukes that thought to smithereens.

A July 10 report from The Boston Globe’s Adam Himmelsbach states that Jaylen Brown is questioning his position on the Celtics hierarchy. The latest development with Brown is concerning, and it’s safe to say that fans should panic.

The key part of the latest development with Brown is his thoughts on how he is equal to Tatum. Himmelsbach’s report also says that it’s understandable why Brown would want a player option like Tatum. This statement is concerning, and it highlights how I’ve always felt about Tatum and Brown: that it won’t work. Brown and Tatum are unable to coexist, and it seems that Brown is at the root of the problems, not Tatum.

Jaylen Brown’s extension talks with Boston Celtics makes report’s timing interesting
It’s also not surprising to see this leak out because there were reports earlier today that the Boston Celtics are nearing an extension with Brown. The new comment coming out at this time ultimately hurts Brown because it makes him look selfish. The fact that Brown wants what Tatum has shows there is a disconnect between Brown and the team. Brown must think higher of himself than the Celtics do of him.

It’s truly sad that Brown feels this way and that he is unable to accept his role on the team. This ultimately speaks to a larger issue with Brown because he has a massive ego. Brown is unable to see the true golden opportunity he has to be a Robin to Tatum’s Batman, similar to Scottie Pippen with Michael Jordan and Dwyane Wade with LeBron James.

Ultimately, it will be interesting to see what happens with Brown and Boston Celtics fans who should be glued to their phones for the latest.

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11/07/2023, 13:15
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Guarda, su HH per me troppo spesso indulgono al flame: io ho smesso di leggerli da anni ergo pattinerei via velocissimo da qualunque interpretazione che loro propongono.


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Zio Trifoglio ha scritto:
Guarda, su HH per me troppo spesso indulgono al flame: io ho smesso di leggerli da anni ergo pattinerei via velocissimo da qualunque interpretazione che loro propongono.


Il problema è che parte da un articolo di Adam Himmelsbach del Boston Globe che (credo) sia un po' più affidabile

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/07/10/sports/with-no-contract-extension-yet-this-appears-be-an-important-week-jaylen-brown-celtics/
:benedetto:


11/07/2023, 16:34
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Sicuramente la fonte è più autorevole e questo è un fatto.
Himmelsbach sottolinea correttamente che i tempi della firma si stanno allungando, ma d'altra parte era anche previsto perché le parti erano d'accordo di vedersi alla SL e non prima.
Poi oggettivamente ci sono degli aspetti da definire, ma Himmelsbach dice che il nodo ancora non risolto sono i bonus correlati agli obiettivi tipo numero di partite giocate, all star, premi individuali, trade kicker, no trade clause etc etc.
Questa è una cosa, ma da lì a dire che Brown è geloso di Tatum e vuole lo stesso trattamento di Tatum perché è egoista e non vede la differenza tra lui ed il compagno mi sembra interpretazione forzosa tutta di HH, Himmelsbach ed altri insider lucidi si guardano bene dal dirlo.
Nemmeno io che vorrei Brown impacchettato con destinazione Canada arrivo a tanto :lol3


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Celtics forward Jaylen Brown was eligible to agree to a five-year, $295 million super-max contract extension with the Celtics at 12:01 a.m. July 1. But two weeks have passed without a deal, with seemingly everyone other than the involved parties wondering why negotiations seem to be moving slowly. Now, it appears the process will be delayed at least a bit more. According to a league source, although talks between Brown and the Celtics have been progressing, Brown, a National Basketball Players Association vice president, is headed overseas for an organizational event, and he plans to meet with the Celtics again when he returns. It’s unclear how long Brown will be gone, but there is expected to be a temporary pause in the negotiations during his absence. The source stressed that Brown’s departure is not related to any setback with the Celtics; he is simply honoring a previously scheduled commitment.
By all indications, the Celtics are offering Brown a full max contract. The holdup is likely related to incentive structure, or clauses such as a fifth-year player option like the one fellow Celtics All-Star Jayson Tatum received when he agreed to his extension in 2020. There were signs that Brown’s extension could be finalized in Las Vegas this week. Boston’s executives are here for the NBA Summer League, and Brown was here for several days, spending part of the time operating a gift suite for rookies at the Palms Casino Resort. Brown’s brother, Quenton, even sat courtside with Celtics decision-makers during the team’s loss to the Wizards on Sunday.
– via Boston Globe

Insomma, visto che mancano i dettagli nessuna fretta.


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Alla fine i Celtics e Jaylen Brown hanno concordato un'estensione supermax di cinque anni da 304 milioni di dollari. Il nuovo accordo rappresenta il più grande contratto nella storia del campionato.

Nonostante le difficili finali della Eastern Conference - in particolare, una prestazione di tiro 8 su 23 in Gara 7 con otto palle perse - Brown la scorsa stagione ha avuto una media di 26,6 punti con il 49,1% di tiri, 6,9 rimbalzi e 3,5 assist a partita, tutti i massimi della carriera. La sua seconda distinzione in All-NBA Team lo ha reso idoneo per un'estensione supermax e il 35% del tetto salariale della squadra.

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Ecco la ripartizione dell'estensione super max di Jaylen Brown a Boston:

2024-2025 $ 52.368.085
2025-2026 $ 56.557.532
2026-2027 $ 60.746.979
2027-2028 $ 64.936.425
2028-2029 $ 69.125.872
Totale $ 303.734.893

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rajondivivre ha scritto:
La mia risposta non voleva supportare alcun supermassimo salariale che non darei a nessuno

son d'accordo, ma è la Lega NBA che dovrebbe limitarlo.

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#Largo a questi Celtics


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